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  • sumagiri
    07-25 11:00 AM
    What you say can certainly happen, but I beleive that the pressure on USCIS is exponentially greater after last summer. People are watching their every step very closely. They got away with their inefficiency in prior years because the bottleneck was not USCIS - it was DOL that took a zillion years to clear labor petitions. Additionally the visa recapture of 2000 ensured no retrogression until 2005. Even after 2005 there were very few 485's to approve because of a) very low perm applications/approvals in 2005 and early 2006 and b) all the 2003/2004 labors were stuck in BEC's and were approved only in late 2006 or early 2007 (like your truly - mine was actually an RIR but the BEC classified it as Traditional Recruitment and began recruiting for the position - but thats another story).
    Net net; USCIS inefficiency was masked under DOL's backlog - but now their transgressions are out in the open and they cant hide anymore behind DOL especially after last summer.

    As much as Ron Gotcher has been accurate in the past, I think he is missing the point this time. At an ulterior level he needs to show USCIS in poor light because he only recommends CP for his clients. If I were his client and I hear him say that this year USCIS is different then I am bound to switch over from CP to AOS!

    I know. That is what I am exactly saying. All our calculations will be true when USCIS works efficiently for this year and continues to do so. And we all are hoping for that.

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  • glus
    02-13 07:19 AM
    Clear up your mind for a little while and consider this:

    The whole working world lives by on one simple rule ..... GETTING PEOPLE OFF YOUR BACK.
    The bigger PITA (pain-in-the-ass) you are... the higher is the priority you get.

    As a community we will need to become a PR nightmare for govt. officals... simply being an inconvenience is not going to cut it... we will have to become a "a cactus that is stuck in the colon".

    USCIS says EBs are retrogressed because there are XXXXX people in the queue. Why is the queue so long? Because they wasted numbers in the past and kept the queue long. This is pure operational inefficiency that is resulting in monetary, emotional and mental loss to about a million people.
    This is a valid ground for a class action lawsuit.

    By filing this suit, we will become the "cactii in the colon" that they will have to address. And you know what the easy out of court settlement will be..... RECAPTURE!

    We will keep lobbying and crying as we usually do.. But this thing has a far better shot than anything else.

    Class actions are not performed easily. First,one needs to show that an agency acted illegally and that action caused many people harm. The fact that USCIS did not use all the visa numbers is not automatically illegal. The law says that the MAXIMUM number of visas, for example, in the EB is 140,000 per fiscal year. It does not say what's the minimum. I am not an attorney, but if that were an easy case, many times would someone else have tried it. Good idea, but as far as I know, difficult to fight from a legal point of view. I'll ask my attorney about this and will keep you posted.

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  • thepaew
    05-29 10:03 AM
    I guess people who work in IT have a very IT-centric world view. I don't and I know several EB1 candidates. They are extremely qualified and have extraordinary ability that can be documented with PhD, papers, patents and awards.

    Even if we prevent possible abuse of this category, it will not help retrogression for EB2/3-I. The only fix is going to be legislative and we should focus our energies on that.

    I am not sure if EB1 India cap of 3000 visas has been met already. If it was met, then they would have set a priority date for EB1 India too. Assuming that it is not being met, these project managers along with their spouses should be taking only a very small number and that shouldn't contribute much to EB2-3 retrogression numbers. So our real problem is lack of numbers for EB2 and EB3.

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  • shreekhand
    08-15 01:40 PM
    Couldn't have agreed any more than this:

    Don't make a big deal of Shah Rukh's detention:One For The Road:Anand Soondas's blog-The Times Of India (


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  • kaisersose
    07-29 12:21 AM
    I presume the decrease in labour filing in 2008 might be a possibility due to the offshore Indian companies which shifting to H1B sponsorship instead of L1 sponsorship. Because most of the L1s being rejected with these companies recently. So they switching to H1 sponsorship. And obviously they normally dont sponsor GC. So this is just my thinking on why the labor filings decreased in 2008 compared to 2007.

    There is the added restriction that the employer has to now pay for PERM. SOme employers may have some way of working around this, but it definitely has an impact in reducing the number of applications.

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  • akkakarla
    04-28 04:23 PM
    When will they register and when will this abuse of labor sub stop?


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  • smisachu
    06-16 03:58 PM
    On the Mark:)

    I am waiting in the line as well for GC or to be sent back home and personally, I want everyone to get their GC and don't agree with dilipcr. Kind of off-topic but I made this observation:

    IMHO simsachu's reasoning is sound.

    Your example is not the same as simsachu's. simsachu assumes there are way more "bad" fish compared to the good one's in the population. Hence you need to catch more fish to come across a "good" one.

    You assume the opposite (there are very few bad fish) and hence come to the conclusion that catching more fish would net you more bad fish (but way more "good" fish as well) as well. But given your assumption, it is puzzling why you want to have lesser number of GC's (if indeed that is what you are advocating, I haven't read all the messages in the thread) when you assume there are way more "good" candidates than bad.

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  • pappu
    08-18 03:48 PM
    I do not know why this issue is more important for people to discuss. Just because Mr Khan is asked to be a common man? He is not a world famous actor. He is a famous actor to a very very small minority Indian Community in USA. Why should USA give VIP treatment to any star actor from any country of the world? If he was an official ambassador/senior diplomat/Minister, it us understandable. He is simply coming to USA to make money. He will still come again to USA to make money even if he is strip searched again and questioned for more than 66 minutes. Indian government seems to have crossed the line by complaining. This VIP culture that is so prevalent in India needs to change.
    If Indian government really wants to complain, why are they not complaining against the long wait periods for H1B stamping in India. Ordinary Indian citizens going to India for stamping sometimes have to wait several months in the name of security checks. This takes a toll on their life and job in USA. There are several other issues Indian Citizens face in USA. If Indian government has chosen to interfere with the internal matter (in this case national security) of USA, why is it keeping quiet on other matter of importance to its citizens? Indian government needs to stick to its policies and not bend its rules for VIPs.

    As someone said, if his intention was to publicize his new movie and make more money from his share of profit, he may have succeeded.


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  • vdlrao
    07-26 04:26 PM
    I dont think the situation is that bleak. What would happen when EB3 ROW is unable to use up all the spillovers from EB2? The excess would go to EB3 I, right?

    In the past 4+ years, the annual H1 queue is just 65K. So the input into the EB queue must have moderated quite a bit.

    right point to note.

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  • ramus
    06-27 06:59 AM
    So are you saying that we could have possible retrogression effective from any day in July?


    USCIS had approvals before dates moved. USCIS knows the numebr of such approvals.

    These approvals are getting GC before approval of current applicants. If earlier approvals use up quotas, retrogression does not have to wait for current approvals.


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  • ronhira
    01-13 08:28 PM
    how'll this affect those on ead or ac21...... it seems that this has no affect on us if we r using ead with the sponsoring employer or ac21 employer..... is that correct?

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  • hatighora
    01-05 05:00 PM
    Why amway cannot sell brand products that you get at walmart and other stores. What is stopping amway from having a partnership with these companies and sell quality products?


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  • bayarea07
    07-27 05:50 PM
    Why donot you ask your uplines to show their Tax Papers for previous papers to you and to others.
    Please ask that as a question next time you visit your upline or diamond next time and then come share your thoughts here.

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  • another one
    09-23 06:22 PM
    if you haven't realized it so far ... you must have been sleeping or not watching television!

    the day this becomes would be better for all of us go home, bcos tht means lawmakers are ready to do anything to get some money and they know this country has gone down beyond repair.
    and the day it becomes law..i am sure the situation in this country will be so bad tht most of us wont even have jobs at tht time.


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  • spicy_guy
    01-24 03:12 PM
    I have been a silent reader of Murthy forum, and I have been observing JoeF's posts. He is NOT an anti-immigrant. He is just educating people about the law. That's what I see from his posts. He is knowledgeable enough to answer the questions of the forum readers.

    Maybe his posts sound rude for the wounded and needy. But I think he isn't taking anything bad about immigration or prospective immigrants.

    Anyways, thats not the topic of this thread and don't mean to detract.

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  • gc_lover
    06-26 02:15 PM
    it tough to so relax and don't worry too much when I am aware that there are people from 2001/2002/2003 are still still in line doesnot make me happy but I can feel for these blokes.:( :(

    Yes, I agree with you. However, the point is there is nothing you can do at this point of time. So please enjoy your life instead of worrying about 485.


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  • go_guy123
    03-17 11:13 AM
    such people cut in line in front of us and don't even bother paying money to IV. Why should we give them free advice. If they can spend money buying labor for 20K they can spend hundred dollars and consult a lawyer and ask their question. It is with such mentaility they are brought up with in their country- Currption and getting things done with money. But never paying anyone for a just cause. In my country people contribute only when they fear god in temples, for medical treatment or to astrologers!!

    At least on this forum we can have the resolve to fight such people who are hurting most of us.

    Good that DOL/USCIS is getting rid of labor selling by voiding after 45 days
    ( in the final rule that might be raised a bit 90days ...which is justified and reasonable)

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  • snathan
    05-01 11:05 PM
    And who told you that they are being opressed - have you been to Sri Lanka and if yes which places did you visit to see the Tamils being opressed .

    The terrorists who come to fight in J&K from Pak say they are fighting because Indian Army and govt is opressing the Muslims . Is that true also ?

    Seriously I don't care - my personal opinion that in this particular case it is none of our ( India's ) business to meddle in Sri Lankan affairs when they are on the verge of getting rid of a menace they have . Terrorism is not a solution of anything . Only peaceful times can bring happiness and prosperity.

    If you are so ignorant no one can help you. In SL everything started because of singala opression and chavinisim. But its not the case with J&K. The Pak govt wants J&K and thats how started here. One does not need to go the battle field to understand whats going on there.

    Desperate to escape the warzone in Sri Lanka, a group of 21 people set out from Mulaitivu on April 21. Among them was eight-month-old Kuberan who was feeding on his mother's milk when she died. His family was on a boat with 20 others.

    Each one was hoping for safety and the chance of a better life in Rameshwaram, nine hours away. But they got lost and soon they ran out of food and water. One by one 10 people died of hunger and dehydration and their bodies were thrown into the sea.

    Lost at sea they finally landed on the Kakinada cost of Andhra Pradesh, but only 11 reached alive.

    Kuberan in Hindu mythology means the 'Lord of Wealth'. But this eight-month-old is anything but that. He is the face of the tragic conflict in north Sri Lanka, symbolic of a future and a paradise lost.

    "When we were in Sri Lanka, my father died, then my younger sister died, and then my wife. We were trying to escape to save our lives," said S Jagadeeswaran, one of the refugees.

    In the last three months, at least 50 boats with Tamil civilians have left Mullaiteevu for Rameshwaram. But no one knows how many of them survived.

    "My daughter was in my arms, my lap and she died right there," said Niranjana, a refugee.

    Thus, the Sri Lankan civilians who tried to escape the violence, were washed up on India's shores.

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  • GC_ki_daud
    08-06 09:56 AM

    Is it ok to work part time (say 10 hrs a week) for a different company using EAD, while working for a primary company on H1B ?


    12-16 08:38 AM
    I hope this is not our last ditch effort or one of the last chips in our possession to further our goals of Greencard.

    The crisis in united states is not just housing bubble but much more than that. I am not sure if this initiative (linking greencard and purchasing home) will find much traction in government or in medai given the complexity of the mess.
    The currency collapse which we used to discuss is now gathering storm now. The recent runnup in Dollar is peaking now and is in downward trend. Analysts are already up in arms arguing that United states have to take massive debt (assuming China and arab world is ready to give) or they have to print currency to finance their bailouts.


    07-22 02:12 PM
    See, we need to understand, life is a Lottery. No place for Logic. USCIS LOVES lottery...after diversity visa lottery, they are also doing LOTTERY for H1 now, and one day if they like the idea of doing LOTTERY, for EB cases, they might throw away this all mambo jambo of EB1,2,3/PD/RD/ROW/IN/CH...and JUST DO THE LOTTERY!! After this post, I will go buy a Californial Lotto...;)

    kondur_007, u know how to make us laughing in a stiuation like this. your post at the end makes me keep laughing.:D

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