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  • shouldIwait
    05-09 03:24 PM
    Most of what Hunter has said is not wrong. Exploitation and malpractices by small/big consulting companies is a reality. All of the Indian immigrants know it. Indian workers submit to it because it still is a very good bargain.
    But then there are other things that he is simply stereotyping because of personal impact and resulting hatred. Generally implying that foreign workers are crap and cause wage depression isn't true. Wages in IT industry are destined to go down with time because of demand/supply equation. It's nobody's fault that India/China are on the supply side (be it here or there respective countries). Moreover an individual with the will to uproot himself from the other side of the world and come here generally has much stronger zest to make it big than live an average life.
    With regard to quality of professionals overall I don't see a marked difference between American and non-American workers. Moreover, I don't think that employers will employ substandard labor just because they are marginally cheap, because it turns out to be more expensive. In all the cases that H1-B and L1 pocket less money than their counterparts the booty goes to middlemen(both Indian and American bodyshps) and not the companies that ultimately use their skills.
    What we all need here is a common-sense and honest approach to immigratiion. Also, we must understand that much is driven by forces of capitalism and they are strong enough to find a way, protectionism or no protectionism.

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  • asdqwe2k
    04-17 03:50 PM
    I applied on Feb 12 and got my EAD yesterday.. This is my 4th EAD and from NSC.. I applied 3 1/2 months before my current one expires..

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  • manand24
    09-18 09:16 AM
    Yesterday, I received receipt notice via USPS Mail for:

    1. My I485 application
    2. My I-131 application
    3. My wife's I-485 application

    Still waiting to hear about My wife's I-131, I-765 for me and my wife.

    See signature for details.

    PD 04/2006 EB2 INDIA
    I-140 NSC AP 10/2006
    I-485 NSC RD 07/02/07 ND 09/10/2007 - Receipt Notice recieved from NSC (LIN-XXX) on 09/17/2007 via USPS Mail
    I-131 NSC RD 07/02/07 ND 09/10/2007 - Receipt Notice recieved from NSC (LIN-XXX) on 09/17/2007 via USPS Mail
    I-765 NSC RD 07/02/07 ND Pending - NO Update yet.
    I-485 NSC RD 07/02/07 ND 09/10/2007 - Receipt Notice recieved from NSC (LIN-XXX) on 09/17/2007 via USPS Mail
    I-131 NSC RD 07/02/07 ND Pending - NO Update yet
    I-765 NSC RD 07/02/07 ND Pending - NO Update yet

    I have not received any reciept notices yet. I also filed on July 2, 2007.

    PD 04/2006 EB2 INDIA
    I-140 NSC AP 10/2006
    I-485 NSC RD 07/02/07 ND Pending
    I-131 NSC RD 07/02/07 ND Pending
    I-765 NSC RD 07/02/07 ND Pending
    I-485 NSC RD 07/02/07 ND Pending
    I-131 NSC RD 07/02/07 ND Pending
    I-765 NSC RD 07/02/07 ND Pending

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  • Macaca
    12-05 03:52 PM
    Fact-Checking Dobbs (http://www.democracynow.org/2007/12/4/fact_checking_dobbs_cnn_anchor_lou) CNN Anchor Lou Dobbs Challenged on Immigration Issues Democracy Now, December 04, 2007

    Guest: Lou Dobbs, anchor and managing editor of CNN�s Lou Dobbs Tonight. His latest book is �Independents Day: Awakening the American Spirit.�

    JUAN GONZALEZ: �CNN anchor Lou Dobbs may be the most important person in the 2008 presidential election aside from the candidates themselves.� That�s the opening line of a recent column by Christopher Gacek on the website Politico. Gacek goes on to write, �The bundle of concerns that Dobbs and his audience have about globalization, trade, diminished American sovereignty and immigration will be ignored by politicians at their own peril.�
    As anchorman and managing editor of the show Lou Dobbs Tonight, Dobbs has used his nightly program on CNN to help make immigration one of the most discussed issues of the 2008 campaign. Dobbs describes himself as an independent populist. He titled his latest book Independents Day: Awakening the American Spirit. His previous book was titled War on the Middle Class: How the Government, Big Business, and Special Interest Groups Are Waging War on the American Dream and How to Fight Back.

    AMY GOODMAN: Lou Dobbs also has his detractors, especially when it comes to immigration. He has been called the most influential spokesperson for the anti-immigration movement, and he�s been accused of being a fearmonger who vilifies immigrants and promotes xenophobia.
    But Lou Dobbs�s message has struck a chord with many viewers. Lou Dobbs Tonight is the second-most-watched program on CNN, and there�s even talk that Dobbs might make a possible run for the White House. Wall Street Journal columnist John Fund reported last month friends of Dobbs say he�s seriously contemplating running for president as an independent.
    Lou Dobbs joins us today in our firehouse studio for the hour. Welcome to Democracy Now!

    LOU DOBBS: Great to be with you.

    AMY GOODMAN: Are you running?

    LOU DOBBS: Absolutely not. It�s the last thing I could imagine. If I were a candidate, I can assure both of you that I would be the candidate of last resort in this country. That�s about 300 million people in line ahead of me.

    AMY GOODMAN: Well, you�ve written the book Independents Day. That�s with a �ts� at the end of �Independents.�

    LOU DOBBS: Right.

    AMY GOODMAN: What is the main thesis of this book?

    LOU DOBBS: The main thesis is that both political parties�the Republican Party, Democratic Party�have failed the American people, have, rather than held up our central fundamental national values as the standard to which all of our public policies should repair, has submerged them in trivia, wedge issues, and partisan blather and nonsense that is ultimately destructive to the American dream.

    AMY GOODMAN: What do you think are the most important issues today?

    LOU DOBBS: The most important issue in this country today is representation of the American people in Washington, D.C., which is being denied right now by corporate America, special interest, group and identity politics that are submerging the will of the majority in this country. The fundamental tenet of any democracy is representation of the will of the majority, and that is being denied through elitists in both business and government and politics. And we have to fundamentally examine where we are and where we want to be going over the course of this next century. And that is not happening, not in the presidential campaigns of both parties. It�s not happening in Washington, D.C., even though we have a government in which the Democratic Party is leading the Congress, and the Republican Party, the White House.

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    01-17 11:26 AM
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  • eager_immi
    07-14 05:03 AM


    I have posted sections from his trascript .......

    "Counterattack: President Bush's Veto Threat; Showdown Over Iraq; Danger Zone? Aired March 28, 2007 - 18:00 ET"

    DOBBS: Your view is -- well, let me just ask you this. If we could put up a slide here, because this is something most people don't talk about, gentlemen, I would just like to hear your view.

    We bring in 2 million people a year into this country legally, and I would like if we could have that information up on the screen so our audience at home could see it.

    BILBRAY: More than the rest of the world combined.

    DOBBS: It's pretty remarkable. Two million people legally admitted to the United States each year. Four hundred thousand H1 visas each year. Nine hundred thousand other employment visas each year. Six hundred thousand student visas issued each year. Four hundred fifty-five thousand temporary employment transfers granted.
    In addition, over 700,000 legal citizens. In addition, a million permanent residents. My gosh, what in the world are you folks talking about?

    FLAKE: I say thank goodness we do.

    DOBBS: You and me both -- let me say when you say thank goodness we, do, partner, I am just as excited about legal immigration. I'm more excited, I think, probably because it puts the lie to the nonsense of the president of the United States is saying that we cannot operate in this country without a guest worker program. We have tons of guest worker programs. What in the world are we doing?

    FLAKE: Well, when you have nearly five percent of the current work force here is illegal and our economy is doing well with that five percent working, what are we going to do? Are you going to deport five percent of the work force? If you are -- but if you can see we need them, then we need more legal immigration. BILBRAY: Lou, stop paying them to be here. You don't need to deport them. We didn't ship them in. It took 30 years of encouraging people to pay people to be here illegally. Stop paying them. Quit giving them benefits for being here illegally.

    DOBBS: Do you think your legislation is going to succeed?

    FLAKE: I do. I do. I think it's finally time. We - in Arizona, let me tell you, we need it desperately in Arizona.

    DOBBS: Well, it's always good to have a forecast. We'll see how the rain falls.

    All right. Thank you very much, Congressman Flake for being here. Good to talk to you.

    Congressman Bilbray, good to talk with you.

    BILBRAY: You keep up the good work.

    DOBBS: You too. Thank you.

    And up next at the top of the hour, THE SITUATION ROOM and Wolf Blitzer. Wolf.


    DOBBS: The results of our poll, 94 percent of you say Congress should retain its constitutional power and prerogative in trade policy.

    Thanks for being with us tonight. THE SITUATION ROOM starts right now with Wolf Blitzer. Join us at 8:00. Wolf, to you.


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  • eb_retrogession
    02-09 02:45 PM
    Guest-worker program on Bush radar
    By Mike Madden
    The Arizona Republic (Phoenix), February 6, 2006


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  • ganguteli
    06-17 02:26 PM
    Are you suggesting that no fraud should be reported?

    I would say, any fraud, whether H1/L1/F1, employee related, employer related should be reported? Why should law abiding immigrants/workers pay for those who are committing fraud?

    >> 1 in 100 citizen has gone to jail.
    Not correct. There are about 260 jail inmates per 100,000 US residents.
    Link: http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/jails.htm

    >> Educated idiots!
    Now, tell me, who is educated idiot?



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  • ashshef
    09-24 05:07 PM
    1) Each (EB1/2/3) - 28.6% WW quota = 40040
    2) 5 subscription cataegories under each EB category: I,P,C,M,ROW
    3) Assumption - USCIS distributes equal share among these 5 different subscription categories = 40040/5 =8008 in each EB category for a particular subscription category.


    EB3 All = 40040 ( 0.286 x 140000)
    EB3 ALL = EB3 I + EB3 C + EB3 M + EB3 P + EB3 ROW

    Assuming equal share of all of these 5 subscription categories - 40040/5 = 8008 applications to be worked for "Assigning the visa number" not " for granting the visa (IN other words physical greencard order)"

    7% + 2% = 9% country specific limit is meant for "Granting the visa - Ordering Physical Green card" out of "Applications which have been assigned a visa number"

    Number 2) and hence number 3) are definitely wrong.
    As I mentioned in my other post, the categorisation for I,P,C,M and ROW is based on the fact that I,P,C,M are the only countries with demand exceeding the annual limit.
    ROW = All countries not hitting the 7%(or 9%) country limit. That doesn't mean they are capped at X/5. What would be the basis of that cap.
    Assuming USCIS acts like it is supposed to, follows all rules etc........They start using new numbers on Oct1st of the new FY with a fresh slate of 140k available.
    Now by law, they will first divide the cap into the 5 EB categories -EB1, EB2, EB3, EB4 and EB5. Now once they reach the 7%(or 9) cap in any of the categories, they will have to stop assigning numbers for that country. So for EB3, once they reach the 7 or 9% quota for I,C,M,P - they will need to stop. The rest of the countries(ROW) will get the 100 - (7 x 4) = 72% of the quota. This could be divied up between UK, France, Pak, Germany etc etc. As none of them are going over the 7%, the country cap doesn't affect them. But Since there are a lot of apps under EB3-ROW, there's never any number to spill over to the capped countries.
    In case of EB2, only 2 countries hit the cap - India and China. In this case even P and M are part of ROW. But since the apps from ROW is less than the remaining quota of (100 - 7 x 2)% of the EB2 quota, the remaining will be spilled over. The spillover rules will determine who these go to.
    The way the current spillover rules stand, your final calculations will still hold true for EB2 due to the spillover ultimately remaining the same to EB2. But not for EB3.


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  • sledge_hammer
    11-25 11:22 AM
    My Dear Punjabi Bretheren,

    Let me help you understand why I think your question reeks not only of idiocracy, but also utter disregard for even basic moral and common sense.

    You wanted to buy a home, live in it for 2 years, sell it and make money. Nothing wrong with it. But, now that the market if not favorable to you, think you are not responsible for payment, and want to foreclose. All I'm saying is you are responsible for your actions; the act of buying a house, making sure you take care of it (read the contract where it says you are to take care and maintain the house to a reasonable standard), paying your monthly mortgage, insuring your home, and paying back the loan with interest by the end of the loan term. You signed the contract. You were ready to reap profits by the sale if there was equity on the home. Likewise you are to assume responsibility of payment if the home value depreciates. This is common sense. This is how the world has been. This is what they teach you as a kid. Why in the world are you complaining about depreciation when you knew this is a possibility when you bought the house?????????????????

    Foreclosing is not illegal. But in your case it is unethical. I'm not even sure if your lender will let you foreclose when you don't have a real financial burden to make regular payments. You are losing 20Gs only. I assume you are capable of paying your monthly payments. You want to relocate to get a better paying job. I do not think the lender will let you of the hook so easily. And why should they? They shouldn't. They should make you pay every single penny that you owe to them!

    And your questions about returning items to the store; you prove again that your a dishonest man! No, you cannot return a used item. It is wrong. Nothing legal about it. Who told you it is legal??? Now you may go back to the store and pretend like you didn't use it, or that the item is defective, and pass it off, but that's YOU!!!! In your own little dishonest mind everything that is in normal circumstances considered wrong is perfectly fine! You and your buddies here like "kumar1", "leo2606", think that it is fine to return used merchandise. You are all a bunch of dishonest people who didn't learn about right and wrong while growing up. Its not too late, go learn!

    Go read this article. Returning used items is fraud!!!!!!!!! It just makes me mad how you could have even imagined that returning a used item was ok!



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    No one is asking you how u feel or what is ethical and non-ethical..It seems that you are such an ethical guy who has not used a product and went ahead and returned it back to the store..If foreclosing is illegal let me know.. People here are giving pros and cons of doing a foreclosure.. i dont know if you own a house or not, and if you do.. dont know if you are having a perm job or a contract..I know so many people who own house and now they are in a fix because of housing market..I am not like other people who have already foreclosed..and btw.. why to blame the people and not the banks.. if i can own a house and pay mortgage which is quite same as a rent, i will better own a house and sell it after couple of years.. what is harm in that.. i may have mentioned about making profit by owning a house.. but i am not looking at becoming rich by living in a house for 2/3 years..Sledge_hammer and you are complaining all the way in the thread about people who are foreclosing or foreclosed.. but not spent your valuable time in letting people, reading the thread, know what are pros and cons of foreclosure and how it can affect 485..

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  • shreekhand
    09-23 07:37 PM
    Precisely.... many are jumping the gun and are merrily thinking things will be current by 2010 !!

    But, woudn't the 75% of 140K quota for next two years be consumed by ROW applicants who are about to apply. Becoz they are current wouldn't the VISA number go to them..

    All the above calculations I guess are assuming that the entire 140K will be given the pending 485 application..May be I am missing something.


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  • coopheal
    11-12 09:26 PM
    I had sent the four letters to different service centers. Got a reply letter back from TSC.
    The letter says "Thanks you for your recent inquiry to the Texas Service Center (TSC) via letter for information regarding your case. ....." Seems like a standard letter template.
    They returned my letter and even the envelope too. :)

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  • pappu
    01-07 07:09 PM
    Massive IV campaign for Administrative fixes

    Dear Members,

    Immigration Voice is starting a massive campaign to get administrative relief for our community. We have had several fruitful meeting with the administration in 2007, some of these meetings were scheduled in September, November and then in December. In these meetings, we were able to convince the administration about the implication and hardship due to current broken system. Since Congress has not been able to address our issues in 2006-07, we were successful in creating a case for administrative fixes that would give much needed interim relief to EB community. These meetings helped us start a conversation on possible administrative fixes like 3 year EAD-AP, clearly defining “same or similar” if AC-21 is invoked, and we are hearing favorable feedback.

    Due to lack of action on legislative front our community’s patience is running out and we want some relief urgently to get out of probationary status. We are thus starting this nationwide campaign that will help our advocacy efforts and get administration to act quickly. There are several components to this campaign.

    1) Support from lawmaker offices: We urge all our members to meet their lawmaker offices and get them to write to The President in support of administrative fixes and urging for an immediate administrative relief. The template of the letter is attached. Letters from lawmaker offices to administration get far more attention as compared to anybody else writing the same letter. The template of the letter is posted below. Please request lawmakers to give you a copy of the letter or lawmakers could copy IV on their letter to The President. Here is a template to write to your local congressman and senator: http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showpost.php?p=212511&postcount=6 (http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showpost.php?p=212511&postcount=6)

    2) Support from employers: We urge all members to approach their employer and have them send a letter to The President expressing support for our administrative fixes and appealing for an immediate relief. The template of the letter is attached below. Please request your employer to give you copy of the letter so that you could provide IV with the copy of the letter.

    3) Plea from our community: We urge all our members to write personalized letters to The President directly and convey their plight. If you would like to write your own personalized letter, please do so with your own story. Make sure to stick to the administrative fixes we have listed in the letter template and how these fixes could help you and your family. Please put your name and address in your letter. Anonymous letters will not be delivered and will be discarded. We request that you create 2 copies of your letter. One copy should be posted to The President and the second copy should be sent to Immigration Voice mailbox address at –

    Immigration Voice
    P O Box 1372
    Arcadia, CA 91077-1372

    You can write your own letter or use one of the LETTER TEMPLATES below. Be sure it includes the key points.

    The deadline for receiving all the letters is 1st March 2008. Our plan is to collect thousands of letters that we will also receive in IV mailbox and deliver them, along with the letters from employers and lawmakers across the country, during our meeting with the administration. We believe that this will make a necessary impact to strengthen our case and gather the necessary political will required for administrative fixes. We will also try to get media coverage for this campaign and draw national attention.

    Please inform all your friends stuck in greencard retrogression and have them participate in this effort. Please post information about this campaign and link to this thread to as many sites, blogs you can so that we can get extraordinary scale of participation. The success of this effort will depend on the collective sincerity of the entire EB community to get letters from lawmakers, employers and members of the community. Immigration voice is counting on each and every member and it is in up to each member to make this campaign a success and help us to improve our and our families’ lives.
    Reminder: Pls mail 2 letters

    1) (copy 1)please send a separate letter to the President.
    2) (copy 2)Send a copy of that letter to IV. After the letters are sent to the President, IV will have a meeting with senior administration officials. In that meeting we will carry the copies of the letters and deliver to them.


    Pls feel free to change the text of the letter and personalize it if you wish. If you wish to include your story and attach a photo copy of your degrees, patents, awards, please do so. Just make sure to include the information on provisions we are trying to push.

    If you are handwriting the letter, your writing should be legible. If nobody can read your writing, then it will defeat the purpose. Write the letter in such a way that the key points are easy to read. If you would like to use rules, bold text, highlighters etc... go ahead and do it.

    We all need to be as creative as possible to make this campaign a success.


    Everyone that took part in the IV lobby day in September 2007 should get in touch with the lawmaker offices now and request them for letters. If you have met your local lawmaker offices through state chapters or on your own, it is time to visit them again for this request.


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  • MCQ
    11-12 12:18 PM
    For more information, we went to visit our home country and re-entered from JFK with no issue twice after 2004. We got H4 tranfered, EAD advanced Payrole too with no issue al all. Looks like "nunc pro tunc" is the solution according to Murthy. Anybody has experience with "nunc pro tunc" please post your experience. http://www.murthy.com/news/n_nunpro.html
    gc4me - I have experience using "nunc pro tunc" - and it saved my I-485 (AC21).
    I had just come back from vacation (09/01) and the Officer at the POE stamped my I-94 with the date on my visa (11/01), instead of the date of my then H1-B extension I-797 approval notice (03/03) which I had with me.
    I explained to her she had stamped the wrong date, she said that was all I was allowed. I tought this wrong so mentioned it my attorney when I got home. My attorney confirmed that the POE Officer was wrong - so drafted a letter for me to take to my local INS Office to get the card corrected - along with one of her paralegal assistants. The Officer at the INS office took one look at the letter and supporting documents and told me I was ok as the I-797 had me covered to 2003. The paralegal then typed up a eport of the meeting with the INS, saying everything was ok, and we thought that was the end of the matter.
    How wrong we were.
    I next left the US to go on vacation in November 2002. By this time I had renewed my visa through the now non-existant Department of State mail in program, got my Labour Certificate, my I-140 and had filed my I-485. The issue of my erroneously stamped I-94 was a distant memory and I had no trouble getting back into the US with the new Visa, and my I-797.

    The following Februaury my company ran into some problems and I was let go. Luckily I had passed the magic 180 days so was able to invoke AC21 and went to find a new job, which I did. My new employers were quite happy to take over the GC sponsorship as all they had to do was send a letter to the now USCIS and work with their lawyers.

    That's where the trouble started. USCIS got the letter, put it on my file and started their review of my I-485.
    They then sent me an RFE asking me to prove I had been here legally between the expiration of my old I-94 in 11/01 and when I submitted the I-485 in July 2002. (I-485 for AOS can only be submitted if you are legally in the US at time of submittal). I was devastated as it looked as though they were going to deny my I-485 due to an INS mistake.
    As it was more than 365 days from when my I-94 "Expired" till I left on my next trip, I was looking at deportation and a 10 year ban from the United States.

    Luckily it is a good thing I am a pack rat and keep every bit of correspondance between me and my lawyers. I was able to go to my new lawyers with the info and statements from my old lawyers about what had happened back in 2001 with the INS and my I-94 and after getting Sworn Affadavits (on pain of Perjury) from my old lawyer, paralegal and myself, we went to the local USCIS office and made an appointment with the Director and asked for a "Nunc pro Tunc" decision on the I-94 as it was clearly an INS mistake and that we had acted in Good Faith throughout in trusting the INS official.
    We got the "Nunc pro Tunc" and responded to the RFE. Six weeks after that - I got the I-485 Approval notice and my passport stamped the week after.

    The things for anyone to take away from my experience are.
    1. When you realize a mistake has been made - act on it immediately - like I did as soon as I left the airport on September 2001

    2. Document everything - to prove that you acted in Good Faith throughout the process.
    Every conversation you have with someone relating to your case - your employer, your lawyer, the USCIS - get the main points in writing - email is graet for this - fire off an email - get confirmation (ok - not so helpful when talking to USCIS)

    3. Keep EVERYTHING. take photocopies of I-94's, I-797's - everything. Every letter, every email. You never know when you'll need them.

    4. Yes, the Government really does know where everything is in your file and they will catch even the smallest mistake.

    Hope that helps you gc4me. If you can prove you acted in Good Faith throughout the whole process from finding the mistake and trying to correct it - your chances of getting the "nunc pro tunc" go up.


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    09-09 04:24 PM
    I called all the Congress members on the List. Their staff assured to convey the message to support/ vote in favor of HR 5882.

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    These are interesting facts. macaca - you really have lot of time on hand- I think it is generally accepted that dobbs has lost his mind. I remember an interview on charlie rose - where he asked whether Turner tolerates this guy (I dont remember the exact words ..).
    I for one have stopped watching CNN ...I even sent emails to others who have programs on CNN that because of this idiot I have stopped watching CNN ..maybe others should do the same - next step ofcourse is to send emails to companies who sponsor his show. ofcourse we should not ignore such a hater (dobbs) ..the problem is that dobbs inaccuracies leads to hate crimes

    09-16 10:39 AM
    I called again for the second time.

    I will call again!!!!!!!!

    10-17 09:58 AM
    havent you heard the saying-all publicity is good publicity..? by talking about this racist, all we are doing is generating buzz about his stupid program which goes on and on like a broken record about outsourcing and all that..lets NOT track statements made by him..let him say whatever he wants..he does not have any credibility anyway..like they say-dogs bark while the caravans pass by

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