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  • sk2006
    08-17 01:16 AM
    "India to take SRK detention issue strongly with US ". This shows that the govt. of India has got no better things to do, but feels that VIP treatment to movie stars is more important than nation's security. Moreover SRK visit to US was purely personal to promote his film and has got nothing to do with govt. of India.

    This part amazes me most.
    He is an actor on a personal visit and now govt of India has to intervene.

    And look at the protesters.
    There are thousands of more important issues in India and they don't bother them while detention of SRK makes them protest. Hight of stupidity.

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  • vdlrao
    07-21 08:14 PM
    I am amazed by your calculations and how much effort you put into this. What is the conclusion come october. EB2 I will move fwd or will be current or will be retrogressed?

    In 2007 the total EB1+EB2 VISAS are 70859

    IN THE WORST CASE the total (EB1+ EB2) Visas for 2008 are 111,016
    which are 40,000 more when you compared to 2007

    IN THE BEST CASE, (ASSUMING USCIS USES ALL 28,795 unused VISAS of AC21 FOR 2008 ) the total (EB1+ EB2) Visas for 2008 are 133,212
    which are 62,000 more when you compared to 2007.

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  • mallu
    02-12 08:46 PM
    .....USCIS says EBs are retrogressed because there are XXXXX people in the queue. .....

    Do they publish how much is XXXXX per country ?

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  • romysree
    08-14 02:31 PM

    After i received my EAD i changed my employer. Now i am thinking about representing myself instead of my previous attorney. Could you please suggest the forms/procedures to do the same?



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  • snathan
    08-16 01:09 AM
    Don�€™t make a big deal of Shah Rukh�€™s detention:One For The Road:Anand Soondas's blog-The Times Of India (

    One For The RoadDon’t make a big deal of Shah Rukh’s detention

    After a long time actor Salman Khan has come up with a real gem. On hearing about Shah Rukh Khan being questioned by US security at Newark, New Jersey, he said it’s good that the country has such a tight set-up. And that ``there has been no attack after 9/11 because of this.’’

    Salman has a point. SRK might be an icon to Indians and many in the subcontinent, even to the desi diaspora spread across the globe, but to America he’s just a visitor. We may be convinced he cannot be involved in anything that’s remotely violent, but the guard given the responsibility of stopping something like 9/11 from happening in his country again will want to take no chances. And what is the possibility that he’s a die hard fan of the Khan and Bollywood? Very slim.

    Interestingly, the same day that SRK was detained in Newark, there came news that the great Bob Dylan, who was wandering around Long Branch, near New York City, sometime back, was asked for an ID by two cops too young to know who he really was. When he couldn’t furnish one, he was taken right back to the resort where he was putting up and staff there vouched for him. And America is Dylan’s own country.

    Was there a furore? Not that I know of. Not even a little blowin' in the wind.

    SRK says he’s ``upset and angry’’ because it was his Muslim name that caused all this. Thousands of Muslims are made to go through extra security checks everyday in America and a host of Western countries. Is he equally upset at that? He's probably just pissed that it happened to him, India's mega star. We all know how a lot of Muslims have been subjected to prejudice around the world because many countries see terrorism as an Islamic phenomenon. Yes, it is uncalled for, unjust and maybe wrong. But America is a country that takes the killings of its people with the seriousness it deserves, unlike India whose record on this is shameful, to say the least.

    Also, because most of the perpetrators of 9/11 were Muslims, America thinks it has to be doubly careful where they are concerned. Had the terrorists been Jews, perhaps it would have looked at Jews with similar suspicion. I was much more aggrieved at President Kalam being frisked. But that’s a dated debate.

    There are two layers to the SRK incident and we must peel them off with care. One, it is quite ridiculous that Indians feel their icons and superstars are everybody’s icons and superstars. What the heck? If Jet Li came to India tomorrow, the man on the street here would probably call him ‘`Chinky’’ and not give a second look. For that matter, what if G�rard Depardieu came travelling. How many would know him? Matt Damon was here recently and there wasn’t a traffic jam in Delhi. These guys are huge back home.

    Moreover, America doesn’t have a culture of fawning the way India has. Mike Tyson was treated like a common rapist and spent most part of his youth in the slammer. Winona Ryder was sentenced to a three-year probation for shoplifting. Chinese born Hollywood actress Bai Ling was fined US 200 dollars for petty theft.

    More importantly, we are actually aggrieved because we are ``not like them’’. Well, guess what. It isn’t a virtue. We should be like them and take the security of our country and its people with solemn, no-nonsense professionalism. Frisk Brad Pitt when he lands in India next. Give Tom Cruise the same dose. Don’t spare Bill Clinton either. Isn’t he an ex-prez just like Kalam? Who’s stopping you and what’s stopping you? Colonial hangover? Or is it plain lethargy and callousness. Looks like both.

    We are just whimpering over here like hurt puppies because we feel, ``Oh, but we don’t do it to them’’. Oh no, we don’t. And it’s a scandal. We should. I’ve seen white men – and women – get away in India with murder. Indian women can’t get into some discos wearing a sari. And bouncers will frown at you if you are dressed in a kurta. Have you seen what some of these firangs have on them? No one bats a eyelid.
    So instead of making SRK’s detention an issue, we should think of upgrading our own security set-up.

    There’s a lesson in this. And it is a positive one. A day after our own 26/11, there was hardly any security at CST in Mumbai. It can’t get worse than that. The bottom line: Stop fawning, shed the colonial hangover and make no compromise where the country’s safety is concerned. Can we do that or is it too much to ask from a country that’s been free for 62 years but was ruled by white sahibs for 200?

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  • AirWaterandGC
    05-09 09:27 PM
    Just before any jumps on me :

    I respect , like and love the United States. It has taught me a lot, given me a lot of respect and made me a much better person.
    India is my country and I will get back there on some day. But I believe in a world without boundaries, and believe that political boundaries should not determine where/what I should do. That decision should be just made based on what/where I can be most productive/useful for myself and the society I live in. Hence I believe that USA/CA/India all are great nations/societies and we should respect them along with any other countries too.


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  • chi_shark
    06-15 10:21 AM
    but sachu22g seems to be on the money for the most part! kudos to that simple model. the only date that is not realistic is the May 2007 for sep 2010. rest all are on the money! nice!
    While I would love for your prediction to be true for the remaining three bulletins, I highly doubt that days will move past 2006, let alone may 07. Let us wait for 2 more months to see where you are.

    Good effort though.


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  • pmat
    05-11 01:35 PM
    What happens to the money contributed to US Social security if you move to Canada (for stays < 10 yrs in US). Can you transfer the social security to Canadian system?


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  • sachug22
    09-24 06:40 PM
    If you see the number of application pending in EB2 ROW for 2007 and 2008 they are huge compared to previous years somewhere in hundereds which can mean having the above said issues. The number of applications related to the above mentioned issues cannot spike significantly in just 2007 and 2008. Either the data is old and can mean that these applications are processed and approved and we wait until the new data is posted.

    You can compare this with the PERM data. PERM data has very low EB2 ROW application in a given year and hence has always remained current.

    Is my assumption correct?

    CIS files your application until its time to process. Check the processing dates for Texas and Nebraska service center they are still in second half of 2007. So these applications are filled and waiting for the processing dates to move forward.

    I am not sure if any of your application was delayed due to CIS processing delays, but if they have limited resources they have to go sequentially in order of receipt date (and at time simple approvals AP/EAD could take 4-6 months).

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  • villamonte6100
    12-14 01:12 PM
    I know. I work for a prestigious law firm and I know how hard it is to become a lawyer.

    There was a thread some time back about people considering going to law school and becoming their own lawyers. What I took out of it was that its not that easy. Besides going to school, you have to pass some tough state exams. I am quite happy with my lawyer. I paid some dough but its much cheaper than going to law school, and saves me time and headache.

    Going to law school is not for everyone, definitely not for me (fat books scares me :eek:). I like the suggestion by garybanz about getting a qualified opinion. Just so that we know.


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  • illusions
    05-12 11:44 AM
    It looks like your half family does not know what is happening in the camps. Rather these thrown out media reporters know about that in detail.

    Oh..I forgot to mention all the people who are talking in this report are LTTE and supporters of LTTE.

    No, they know what's going on, everybody know it's not a picnic there in the North, I didn't say that they were un aware what was going on in the North, all i said they are fine where they are, please read what i said. It seems you are only looking at it from 1 angle.

    I'm not disputing what channel 4 reported, it's overwhelming for the govt to handle millions of IDP's and terrorists mixed up in 1 big bowl of soup. In any war situation there will always be cases of misconduct as it has happened in Iraq, Kashmir, Afghanistan etc.

    Oh and thanks for being sarcastic, it proves a lot.,,-8349680,00.html?gusrc=gpd

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  • rajsenthil
    05-02 05:49 PM
    Every body knows what happend to kannadigs in chennai, and riots on kannada businesses.
    If you want tell me I will give you the THE HINDU ( Chennai Edition) news paper dates so that you can refer to facts.

    What ever the drama is being played in Srilanka by aravas if they are going to play those tactics in USA .... immidiately will be kicked out:p

    Come on guys.. I can't believe that I am seeing such a support to language terrorists.

    Oh, now I understand why you dont make any sense. :cool:


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  • Googler
    02-16 02:37 PM
    Suppose the admin fix to recapture 'lost' visas is a success. How many will India Eb2 get out of that ? May be 5000 ?
    One really needs to know the number of India Eb2 applicants pending in each year ( of PD ) . If it iturns out , say , there are 25000 I-485 applications with PD up to year 2002, then ?!
    Will a USCIS customer service rep be able to help us with this question :
    "Sir/Madam how many India EB2 applicants are waiting , with PD earlier than mine ? " .

    My friend, in 2003-2004 alone there were 136K EB greencards wasted. When recaptured, in the past they have been given to oversubscribed countries. That is almost an entire years supply of EB greencards.

    As far as your last question goes: I'm amazed, given your interest in this subject, that you have not read the 2005-2006-2007 Ombudsmans reports which discusses in some detail how USCIS claims that it cannot provide data on pending applications by EB preference, country of chargeability, and PD. Do take some time to familiarize yourself with these reports (and read the damn footnotes.)

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  • jonty_11
    07-10 11:31 AM
    Well said good luck.... I may be following you soon once I have my Canada application nearing approval.....

    Please do share your story with media....IV core can probably help you there.


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  • alisa
    02-18 12:51 PM
    I can only give examples from personal life. My personal examples lead me to believe that a lot of people, though aware of retrogression, are unaware of what it really means.

    Six months ago, I thought that there was nobody opposing EB-based visa numbers. And I was pretty certain that my greencard would be handed to me in a few years.

    Then I learnt about IV. And I learnt about the problems.
    Then I tried to tell my friends about it at work. And the first reactions were 'Is the situation really that bad'?

    So, there is definitely a huge group of people who don't know what retrogression really means, and how screwed they really are.

    But again, these are personal examples. Maybe yours (people knowing about retrogression, and still not bothering about contributing/participating in IV) might have led you to a different conclusion.

    I respect your opinion ...but I refuse to believe that people are ignorant...

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  • walking_dude
    02-14 01:35 PM
    One of the plaintiffs is a Michigan chapter member. Though IV isn't a party in the lawsuit, we have enouraged members to participate on their own. Though 2 of them backed out, 3rd one did decide to participate.

    We had formed a group on MI DL issue - Mark and me. We have been working on this issue in different ways, contacting attorneys, state lawmaker offices, other organizations and so on. IV has provided us all necessary support. But, most of the work was done by Mark & me.

    Same should happen here. Some leaders need to come forward and take the initiative to organize. Come out in public, contact other members, collect money, find plaintiffs, talk to attorney and own the initative. IV can provide necessary background help.

    Will some leaders step forward?

    Watch and see how fast the Michigan government will start issuing DL to H1B holders and to those who has pending I-485.


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  • go_guy123
    01-22 02:21 PM
    I pity people who have coming to USA is foremost objective. In my case, i came to USA 7 years ago. Atleast i earned few bucks. But people who are dreaming about USA and taking education loans with the intention to payoff once they land in USA. It also includes people coming here on F1 with intention to work here. I feel really sorry!!!

    Yes very correct. I still don't get the reason for people's obsession of doing MS/MBA in US.
    It makes no sense any more. 10-15 years ago it made sense. I have have been telling people to look outside US for MBA (practiced it myself for my MBA though I did my MS in US)

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  • amsgc
    07-04 11:53 AM
    Please post good reliable estimate of cost for applying with ALL possible break ups. I know the following only!

    Cost of applying = application fee ($795 ??) + Lawyer fee + others (= medical + pictures + ...)

    Also, which parts are lost if we have to re-apply!

    Avg. For 1 person
    Cost of Applying: $395 + $170 + $180 = $745
    Attorney fee: $2000
    Medical: $300
    Pictures: $25
    Total: $3070

    If we cannot apply in the next one year, money wasted:

    Attorney fee: $2000
    Medical: $300
    Pictures: $25

    Total: $2325 - This money we will never see again. Add to this misc. expenses incurred - gas, printing, phones, courrier. Next time we will have to spend this amount again, and more as costs go up with time.

    Ofcourse for some misc. expenses ran into thousands so

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  • gc28262
    09-04 11:48 AM
    Deleting this thread does not change the facts nor does IMV will gain anything out of it. The reason we even discuss these things here other than immigration is because we have immigrated and we have a common bonding.


    IMO IV is not a social networking site for Indians. IV was established for a purpose. Anything that goes against IVs intention should be deleted.

    First of all this topic is not at all related to immigration.
    More importantly this thread will cause lot of bad publicity for us.
    After few weeks you will see TR and Co picking up on this thread and quoting it.

    It doesn't matter whether YSR is good or bad, speaking ill of a dead person is considered uncivilized.

    02-13 11:02 PM
    Those who have info on Rajiv Khanna's lawsuit, please post it on this thread. Please post valid links to references. Please analyse what went wrong, if Rajiv thought he had a case, why was the lawsuit not sucessful. Please post on this thread

    02-14 04:00 PM
    The entire discussion by EB3-ROW guys want to preserve those recaptured unused numbers in 2000 only for EB3-ROW for ever. As I mentioned earlier, the purpose of that recapture is to eliminate backlog in 1999. India and China were only the two countries backlogged at that point. USCIS could do that job only in 2005. You guys want a controlled allocation of recaptured numbers for years and years with the simple intension of EB3-ROW always should be current. I understand that urge. However, you guys forget the reality. EB3 demand is huge due to 245i. The real demand for EB2 always very less. (The real demand for EB2 is when EB3 were current). Now everyone is going to EB2. I feel that is the reason why EB2-India and China getting penalized as DOS took the law in their own hand. Now EB2 guys are victimized. Do not blame India and China took more numbers. The real fact is EB3-ROW is enjoying with the expense of EB2.

    Furthermore all this mess is due cumulative results allowing 245i without increasing visa numbers (this is major one), failure of DOL in processing LC in time, USCIS inefficiency, dealy in processing 485 due to 911, abuse in labor substitution, abuse of massive filing of GC by body shoppers with out a bonafide permanent positions or ability to pay, opening a firms in fast labor processing states just to file GC etc. The list for this mess is end less. No one wants to fix that. If they fix everything, there will be less demand for EB3 visas. Furthermore some thing can not be fixed. One can not request/litigate DOL or USCIS to process the LC or 485 fast. Therefore, everyone in EB3 has to wait. Other option is to educate the law makers the problems due to this mess to fix those. Everyone wants CIR/SKIL bill and no one wants to fix the current system and abuse. So, one has to wait, wait, wait..

    I have come across many people in the last few years from all sorts of countries. Russian, Korean, African, British, Brazilian, Colombian, etc,; although everyone wants their greencards yesterday; it appears to me that the indian nationals are the most hungry for it. It is a generalization but I am just speaking from my experience on this.

    How do you know what the "intention" was of the lawmakers that recaptured visas are supposed to go to the retrogressed countries. If that was the case they would have gotten rid of the 7% limitation along with the recapture.

    Most people who come on h-1b are Chines and indian. There was also close to 200,000 visitor visas approved in 2005 from India. Makes sense because there is a lot of population there. However; it would be short sited to think that there are minimal 245i applicants from India. There actually is a very large number of them. The biggest status violators are people who come on visitor visas from non visa waiver countries. The status violators either get greencard through marriage or through 245i.

    Although as a business person I look at skill rather then nationality; I do know enough about immigration that there is a good purpose behind country limits. Foreign nationals will prefer their own people for h-1b; they will look for their friends, cousins, brothers, sisters, wives, relatives, etc. and bring their own country people here. Therefore, it is not an "open market" on skill people from all parts of the world. The country quota is the equalizer because of this.

    The cultural aspect of south asians is also hurting retrogression. Most people who come here on H-1b are out of school and generally single. People from non south asian countries or muslim countries will find their spouse here. However, someone on h-1b from south asian country or muslim country will get arranged marriage after being here for 4 to 6 years and then spouse gets counted against the quota at the expense of a skilled worker who may have had a later date. I a m not saying this is wrong because it is a cultural issue but is confined to certain countries.

    Regarding eb2 and eb3. This is also something that is quite comical. This is an area where immigration law hasn't kept up business practices. Pre H-1b you got greencard upon initial entry into USA. Department of labor rules were that you couldn't use the experience gained by your sponsor. It was never envisioned that people would come here on h-1b and hop/skip between employers. It has caused an end run around what the DOL rules were supposed to be. You shouldn't be able to gain experience in USA and then use that unfair advantage to knock out an american for that job. EB2 and EB3 differentiation would go away if you couldn't use the experience gained in USA. Just about everyone would be in eb3. Anyone who is here on h-1b generally already has or will have 5 years of experience and can go right to eb2.

    People who are working at companies which aren't dominated by immigrants would have a difficult time satisfying themselves that the job requires a bachelors degree plus five years or masters degree. However; if you work at a staffing company you go straight to eb2 because that is what is needed to keep you there (remember, it is supposed to be the minimum requirements for the job). If software engineer or programmer analyst minimum requirement is masters or bachelors plus five then company is saying that is the "minimum" job requirements. However, if it is the "minimum" requirements then how are companies getting people here on h-1b who only have a bachelors degree?

    Although people like to say "immigration system is broken" it can mean two things. From greencard wannabes; it is too much red tape, not friendly enough, etc. From other side it is broken because it is not being used as its intended purpose. You can mark my words that if/when rules are relaxed on h-1b or quota; you will see a whole bunch of enforcement with it. It actually is already happening at the consulates; department of labor and revocations of 140's by companies who are sponsoring too many people.

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