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  • Canadian_Dream
    12-06 05:28 PM
    I agree with you on this, there is some truth to this that there could be delays when there are multiple filings. In fact this is the first time when USCIS has to deal with so many multiple filings, a very few lawyers have any direct experience with it. From USCIS Standard Operating Procedure, there is a mention of "second filing" (not duplicate filing) in the following places:
    1. Procedural Overview (Page 4)
    2. File Review (Page 46)
    3. Interview Waiver Criteria (Page 185)
    From the link above:
    In (1) and (2) above it says second filing should be handled under the normal process. Although if different A# are assigned case goes to CRU (case resolution unit). But if A# assigned are same, you are more or less processed like a normal case. The last part (3) interview waiver criteria, multiple filing is mentioned as one of the deviations from interview waiver criteria but it NOT the interview criteria itself. In the end processing time for multiple filing is very much up to the discretion of adjudicating officer. Also, I didn't find any reason to believe that there could be issues with security check with multiple filings.
    I think all of us multiple filers can breathe easy if our cases are filed clearly with full disclosure of information without any intended willful violation.

    I am a multiple filer too, my I-485 application filed in early June was approved last week. I hope this gives some reason for optimism for us multiple filers. Good luck to everyone. BTW: I am still a contributing member and will continue to hang out at IV.

    After much research on this, I tend to agree with this answer above (not the CP part though). As per my latest information from a lawyer who does multiple filings, the processing delay can be significant due to this. Looking back, wish our community had more information on this and more real examples of people who have done it. It would have helped members who were unsure if they should do multiple filings.

    Anyways this thread will be useful for future I485 filers.

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  • h1techSlave
    03-25 07:30 PM
    Using the same logic, they can avoid interviewing an African American.

    I think we all should get together and file a class action law suit against those companies.

    Yes, This comes into picture once company decides to hire. Now hiring is teh last process and beofre that you get grilled in multiple interviews. Employer is tsill at liberty not to interview EAD holder. If you are not interviewed, hiring would not come into picture and hence this text of law in I-9 form is worthless for you for that position. This I-9 text will only cover the situation for the period after hiring not before hiring.

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  • puddonhead
    07-07 11:20 AM
    At least one of the big Indian outsourcers have recently done an internal audit to identify all L1s all over USA who were working under "client management". They are in the process of either sending them back to India immediately or filing H1s for them.

    I heard this from one of my aquintances who was on L1 and is getting converted to H1. He was ecstatic about the new job portability that this offers him. I think it will not be an overstatement that the "bonded labor" nature of L1's enable a lot of very subtle discrimination and exploitation because both the employee and his manager knows that he has nowhere else to go. So this is a very positive step indeed.

    If all the Indian companies themselves take steps to address this fraud - then that is probably the best non-disruptive solution that is there for this problem.

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  • shantanup
    09-16 07:08 AM
    Received 'card production (green card)' approval e-mails for both me and my wife this morning.
    IV leaders and IV Texas State Chapter can still count on my voluntary involvement. I love walking through the walkways of the Congress House and the Senate, especially the tram that connects the House and the Senate via the tunnel. ;)


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  • apnair2002
    02-04 04:10 PM
    Since January 2006, the nation's Capital has been fairly quite on immigration news for a number of reasons. Firstly, the comprehensive immigration reform legislative bills were planned to be tabled in February 2006, but reportedly this has been pushed off until March 27, 2006. Secondly, the New Director of Citizenship and Immigration Services took office last months. Additionally, the career immigration benefits leader, William Yates, retired and new acting director took over the immigration benefits management responsibility. Understandably, when the heads of the organization change, pending review of the policies and directions, the organization's activities on policy making usually remain on halt.
    As opposed to the immigration benefits issues, there have been flurry of news coming out of all sources throughout the country relating to the immigration enfocement and border security initiatives. There are sporatic and increasing reports that ICE has swifted the enforcement policy from leniency to reinforcement over the illegal aliens despite its inability to keep up with expanding detenion facilities to house the detained illegal aliens. The ICE has just announced that it will cease the practice of arrest and return of the border crossers and enforce detention of such border crossers. There were reports that ICE officials stopped certain traffics in certain locations in Minnesota to demand legal documents and enforced illegal immigration action against the detected illegal aliens.
    Until the immigration legislative activities are recharged and energized and the new CIS Director has a handle on the immigration benefits policy and management direction, it is expected that the nation's capital may remain in low key for a while when it comes to the employment-based immigration.

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  • Macaca
    12-05 05:16 PM
    AMY GOODMAN: OK, Lou, let�s talk about some of the guests you�ve had on your show.

    LOU DOBBS: Sure.

    AMY GOODMAN: For example, Barbara Coe, leader of the California Coalition for Immigration Reform,�

    LOU DOBBS: She�s not a guest. You�re reading from the Southern Poverty Law Center�

    AMY GOODMAN: �quoted�just one second�

    LOU DOBBS: She was not a guest.

    AMY GOODMAN: I am going to look at the�as you said, you actually felt that the Southern Poverty Law Center was so important�

    LOU DOBBS: It�s a joke.

    AMY GOODMAN: �in getting information�

    LOU DOBBS: It�s a joke.

    AMY GOODMAN: �that you sent your producers down there to get information so that you wouldn�t represent hate groups on the air.

    LOU DOBBS: In their responses, they�re nothing but a fundraising organization�

    AMY GOODMAN: So let me�

    LOU DOBBS: �and they�re indulging in pure BS.

    AMY GOODMAN: OK. Now, let me just�

    LOU DOBBS: And so are you, when you quote them.

    AMY GOODMAN: Let me just talk about some of the guests that you have had on�

    LOU DOBBS: Sure. They�re not guests.

    AMY GOODMAN: �or quoted on the show.

    LOU DOBBS: Barbara Coe was never a guest.

    AMY GOODMAN: No. She was quoted on the show�

    LOU DOBBS: That�s different.

    AMY GOODMAN: �bitterly attacking Home Depot for betraying Americans, apparently because Hispanic day laborers often gather in front of the store looking for work. Not mentioned were her group, listed by the Southern Poverty Leadership Council as a hate group, or the fact that she routinely refers to Mexicans as �savages.� Coe recently described herself as a member of the Council of Conservative Citizens, the white pride group formed from the remnants�

    LOU DOBBS: What year was that?

    AMY GOODMAN: �of the segregationist White Citizens� Council of the �50s and �60s,�

    LOU DOBBS: What year was she�

    AMY GOODMAN: �which Thurgood Marshall called the �Uptown Klan.�

    LOU DOBBS: My god, Amy, what year was that on our broadcast? What year?

    AMY GOODMAN: Not clear. You can tell me what year was it on your broadcast.

    LOU DOBBS: Well, actually, I can, but it was years ago. And it was before we knew what the heck was going on.

    AMY GOODMAN: I�m going to talk about a few other people.

    LOU DOBBS: Sure.

    AMY GOODMAN: Glenn Spencer, head of the anti-immigration American Patrol, has been interviewed at least twice on the show in 2004, maybe many more times after�I don�t know. Spencer�s website is jammed with anti-Mexican vitriol. He pushes the idea the Mexican government is involved in a secret plot to take over the Southwest�


    AMY GOODMAN: �facts never mentioned on your show. His group is regarded as a hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center and the Anti-Defamation League.

    LOU DOBBS: You know, well, I really don�t care what�

    AMY GOODMAN: Spencer has spoken at least twice to the white supremacist Council of Conservative Citizens.

    LOU DOBBS: You know, I got to be honest with you. I have no knowledge of this fellow. I have no idea�and you�re not telling me when he was on the broadcast.

    AMY GOODMAN: You had him on the show. I said�

    LOU DOBBS: No, I did not have him on the show. He was quoted�

    AMY GOODMAN: January 7th�

    LOU DOBBS: He was either quoted in a piece�

    AMY GOODMAN: No, no, no. No, no, Lou. On January 7, 2004, and June 4, 2004�

    LOU DOBBS: Ah!

    AMY GOODMAN: �he was interviewed on your broadcast.

    LOU DOBBS: He was not on our broadcast. He may have been in a field report. He was not on our broadcast. And, Amy, let me ask you a question: have you checked to see how many guests we�ve had on our show in the course of�what is that?�

    AMY GOODMAN: You have had many.

    LOU DOBBS: �three-and-a-half years? No, I mean�

    AMY GOODMAN: You have had many.

    LOU DOBBS: �let�s get a number. What do you think? Why are you focusing on two or three?

    AMY GOODMAN: I can go on and on.

    LOU DOBBS: OK, keep going. How many?

    AMY GOODMAN: But I think the important point here�

    LOU DOBBS: Give us a total. Give us a total of the number of guests you object to.

    AMY GOODMAN: Lou, I just want to say something here. You just said to Juan, can�t he take a joke, when you talk about the incursion, Mexico taking over the United States. Yet, it is a growing theme. It is a continuing thread in your broadcast. This guy, Glenn Spencer, whether he said this on your show or not, Dobbs has not�

    LOU DOBBS: Oh, no, no.

    AMY GOODMAN: Just one second�has not mentioned his ties to American�

    LOU DOBBS: Now I�m supposed to be�

    AMY GOODMAN: Yes, you have to know who�

    LOU DOBBS: I�m supposed to be responsible for what he says off my broadcast?

    AMY GOODMAN: No. You should know that he was tied to American Renaissance, the group that says blacks are genetically inferior to whites. You didn�t report those ties or mention Spencer�s�

    LOU DOBBS: Do you think we knew it?

    AMY GOODMAN: �more wild-eyed contentions�

    LOU DOBBS: Do you think we knew it?

    AMY GOODMAN: �such as his�

    LOU DOBBS: Amy, do you really think we knew it?

    AMY GOODMAN: Just listen to this�such as his prediction�

    LOU DOBBS: Do you really believe we knew that?

    AMY GOODMAN: �that thousands will die in a supposedly forthcoming Mexican invasion.

    LOU DOBBS: Oh, come on! You�re giving Glenn Spencer and other detestable people who would make such comments about more air time than anybody.

    AMY GOODMAN: Well, Lou�

    LOU DOBBS: You have just given him more air�

    AMY GOODMAN: But, Lou�

    LOU DOBBS: �than I would have ever, and I�

    AMY GOODMAN: But, Lou, let me make a final point.

    LOU DOBBS: Go back and look at the quotes.

    AMY GOODMAN: Let me make a final point.

    LOU DOBBS: Who�s giving him more air time? You.

    AMY GOODMAN: Your colleague, Wolf Blitzer�

    LOU DOBBS: Yeah?

    AMY GOODMAN: �on the other hand, also featured Spencer on his own show, but reported Mexico�s official response that SPLC, Southern Poverty Leadership Council�s hate group designation, said that he was a member of a hate group, as designated by the Southern Poverty Law Center. So we�re not�

    LOU DOBBS: What year was that?

    AMY GOODMAN: What I�m saying is that Wolf�

    LOU DOBBS: What year was Wolf Blitzer?

    AMY GOODMAN: �Blitzer identified him; you did not.

    LOU DOBBS: What year? What year?

    AMY GOODMAN: Well, I just know when you had him on your show, and you may have had him on since then.

    LOU DOBBS: But do you know when Wolf Blitzer had him on?

    AMY GOODMAN: Well, soon after that, I suppose. I don�t know.

    LOU DOBBS: OK. After we found out that there was a problem.

    AMY GOODMAN: But you know what the fact is? I don�t know. And I admit when I don�t know. And I try to get my facts straight.

    LOU DOBBS: Sure. Sure. So do we.


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  • justin150377
    07-09 09:37 PM
    Do you think the director just decided to forward the flowers? I am sure he must have called a Monday meeting to counter this. A suggestion during the meeting must have been to forward the flowers to the veterans.

    No they had to pass it through the senate first, the house debated on it and the President Veto'd it and as history shows the USCIS took things into their own hands and decided to forward the flowers anyway (with immigrant notes) to the hospital.

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  • asharda
    07-11 09:19 AM,0,2491458.story


    Quest for green cards leads to sweet-smelling protest
    Victor Manuel Ramos | Sentinel Staff Writer
    July 11, 2007

    Raju Sen Sharma woke up Tuesday with one important errand in mind: He had to order flowers and have them delivered to Washington, D.C.

    The 29-year-old man, an Indian immigrant in Orlando, was not marking an anniversary or wooing a sweetheart. The flowers were for Emilio Gonzalez, head of U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services.

    Sen Sharma was sending them as a symbolic reminder of the plight of foreigners like him, who entered the U.S. legally but cannot find a way to remain permanently.

    In a recent Indian-made movie, sending flowers to prove a point was the method used by the lead actor, following Mohandas K. Gandhi's teaching of nonviolence.

    So hundreds sent roses and daisies to peacefully protest the recent reversal of a decision that would have allowed many to apply for the "green cards" entitling them to permanent residency.

    Immigration-agency spokesman Dan Kane said about 200 flower arrangements had arrived at the Washington, D.C., offices by lunchtime Tuesday.

    Gonzalez said in a statement that he had those flowers forwarded "to our injured service members" at Walter Reed Army Medical Center and the National Naval Medical Center in Bethesda.

    "We have been trying to get the green cards in the legal way, and we have gone through all the process and it hasn't worked for us," said Sen Sharma, an energy-software analyst at the University of Central Florida. "We just want a fair chance."

    Other immigrants are joining a class-action lawsuit about the rejection of their petitions, to be filed by the D.C.-based American Immigration Law Foundation and the American Immigration Lawyers Association.

    Engineers, programmers, lab technicians and other educated immigrants had scrambled to file paperwork, following a June visa bulletin from the U.S. Department of State that gave them hope visas were still available.

    But U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services issued a terse statement July 2, saying it would reject the status-adjustment applications because it ran out of those visas.

    Kane said he could not comment on the mix-up because of the expected lawsuit. The agency has an annual cap of about 140,000 employment-based visas; hundreds of thousands of foreigners compete for them.

    "It's very disheartening for people to get their hopes up and spend thousands of dollars in filing paperwork to then be told nothing is going to happen," said Aman Kapoor, president in Tallahassee of Immigration Voice, the group leading the flower campaign.

    Catherine Henin-Clark, an Orlando immigration attorney, said the cap leaves thousands of worthy immigrants in the limbo of temporary status.

    "When it comes to legal immigration, we are not encouraging the people that we want to have here," Henin-Clark said. "We are turning them away, and that is going to affect the economy one way or another. We have always relied on foreign workers."

    Victor Manuel Ramos can be reached at or 407-420-6186.


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  • DallasBlue
    07-11 01:44 PM
    I know it is hard to believe, but according to the tracking number below, Mr. Gonzalez signed for delivery of my flowers today.

    See below:(click on view package progress)


    Amazing it should be on the frontpage of IV.

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  • obviously
    07-09 06:41 PM
    IV Core - Urge you to publish a PRESS RELEASE tomorrow to build upon the current message.

    Thank the Director for acknowledging the grassroots democractic process currently underway. Acknowledge your genuine happiness that these flowers will find a new home where they will cheer up and provide company to young men and women who are preserving and protecting great ideals of democracy. This is a clarion call to keep the pain and frustration of high skilled legal immigrants in mind when formulating and executing aspects of legislation and public policy for legal immigration.


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  • a2k2
    09-21 12:46 PM
    Pappu, what do you mean by "this may have delayed your greencard since July"? What is his mistake? I too have been trying all means since mid Aug. Is there something wrong with that?

    Congrats ski_dude12. My personal opinion is that this may have delayed your greencard since July. Sometimes people get too anxious once their date is current and want to try everything that is possible to get approval. There is so much information and misinformation on forums.

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  • wantgc23
    09-23 08:28 PM
    Something is screwed up.....

    Mexico has over 2000 cases in April 2001 yet its PD is May 1st 2001
    India has less 500 cases in April 2001 yet its PD is Apr 15 2001
    This along with CIS giving "bad/incorrect" data to IV is indication of someone's malicious intentions.


    Indeed very interesting ...


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  • immigrationmatters30
    04-06 09:13 PM
    You read my mind.

    Also I have analyzed that people who have a date in 2008 somehow predict that the dates might move to 2008 and people who have a PD of July predict that dates will move to August . This is just an observation and nothing more , and if you go through the threads thats exactly what you will see.

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  • kumar1
    11-22 02:35 PM
    sledge_hammer - You call me fool, I think you are a #1 "you know what"! And, I am not even going to write whatever you want to write.

    When you buy a home you sign a contract saying you will pay the loan amount at the end of the loan term with interest. There was a commitment made. And you are saying people who walk away without fulfilling their obligation are smart? Fool!

    And who do you think is footing the bill for bailing out those banks? its you and me! You are not only dishonest and unethical, you must be really dumb if you think you are not going to be paying for the mistakes of people like punjabi when they "walk away" from their homes. Idiot!


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  • sledge_hammer
    11-26 09:14 AM
    Couldn't have said that better!!!

    Lost in all this is the fact that Punjabi wants to sell his house not because he cannot afford it anymore, but because he wants to move to a different city to a higher paying job and can't be bothered to take responsibility for his failed real estate venture. He could have done the ethical thing and stayed in his present job and paid off his loan but he is choosing not to. And who does he blame for his situation? The concept of the "American dream". So the fact that he wants to shirk his responsibilities in favor of foisting his own debt onto the rest of the country isn't his own fault, it's the "American Dream" that's making him do this. It's not exigent financial circumstances that are causing him to foreclose, it is greed and shortsightedness (colloquially known as "The American Dream"). Greed and shortsightedness already caused him to go 20K under the water. And they will now make him screw up his own credit history. If someone cannot learn from one mistake, I say let him keep making mistakes. He will soon find out how difficult life in the US can be if you don't have a good credit history. As for the burden on us taxpayers, hey, we've been spending 10 billion a week for the past 5 years dropping bombs on people, what's a mere 20K?

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  • RattuRani
    06-18 03:46 PM
    Natives blame Naturalized citizens/GC Holders/H1s/L1s for taking their job
    Naturalized Citizens/GC Holders blame H1s/L1s for taking their job
    H1 holders blame L1s for taking their job
    L1s blame ImmigrationVoice members for taking their job:D


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  • drona
    07-10 10:27 PM
    Well done Dilip Tekkedil! Your quote in the Washington Post article was too good!

    Dilip Tekkedil, 32, a software engineer from North Andover, Mass., is one of the frustrated applicants who came up with the flower idea. "It was more peaceful," he said. "We don't trouble anyone else. A rally or something, you have to call law enforcement. It's too much trouble for other people." They do not hold hard feelings against Gonzalez. "I'd like to thank him for the job that he does. I know it's a thankless job," Tekkedil said. "I just hope that he could understand our plight as well."

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  • stuck_here
    02-07 11:17 PM
    Sorry to hear about your predicament Shwetha. I hope you get the thing cleared soon. This is scaring me a little bit too !

    I have called the consulate multiple times and DOS once. They said it is under PIMS verification. They haven't mentioned any 221(g) or anything like that ! But I guess lacking any accountibility to the applicants or employers they can practically do anything !
    Hi stuck_here, how do you know you are stuck for PIMS and not anything else ??

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  • ganguteli
    06-10 01:31 PM
    People please stop posting against our L1 brothers.

    Just because you are not getting your own greencard fast enough, you are posting against L1s. If you had an opportunity, you will also apply as L1 for greencard. Did you all not try for Labor Subs? Antis are posting such messages to provoke you. If they want to report, let them report. Why creating fake profiles and posting against our L1 brothers.

    06-15 02:35 PM
    It says approved I140........... Mine has not been approved yet and has been filed with TSC since March, 07.......... I dont think i will be getting an approval soon........... I am just curious, that i can still file my 485.......... Please let me know........

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